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Tom Kyte

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Asked: October 23, 2002 - 11:57 am UTC

Last updated: May 25, 2011 - 11:32 am UTC

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Tom,

I have learned a lot from your site. One point that you constantly bring up that wasn't getting through my thick head though was, READ THE CONCEPTS GUIDE. So over the past couple of weeks, I put a copy of the pdf version on my laptop and worked my way through it. I am very glad that I did (a re-read is comming soon)!! Many things I didn't understand are clear now and being a consultant that works with a lot of other developers and DBAs, I know most all of you have not read this either. Anyway, my question is... Do you have a ranking list of other documentation developers and DBAs should read?

Like
1) Concepts Guide
2) ....
etc.

Thanks a million.

and Tom said...

Concepts Guide

Application Developers Guide
PLSQL Guide
Performance Guide

for developers

Backup and Recovery Guide
RMAN guide
backup and recovery guide
Admin guide
backup and recovery Guide
Performance Guide
and most importantly - the backup and recovery guide

for DBA's

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A reader, October 23, 2002 - 12:32 pm UTC


Good but...

Chris Slattery, October 23, 2002 - 1:07 pm UTC

No SQL Reference ? ;-)

Tom Kyte
October 23, 2002 - 2:01 pm UTC

for reading? nah, for reference -- sure, you need it. But to sit and read?

Any good Oracle Manual for SQL

Bhavesh Tailor, October 23, 2002 - 1:19 pm UTC

Tom:

U seem to write some *amazing* sql queries. Any good Oracle manual for getting better at SQL?
Thanks a lot, Tom

Tom Kyte
October 23, 2002 - 2:01 pm UTC

practice, i don't recall ever reading a SQL book beyond the SQL/DS manuals in 87.

Great on strssing backup and recovery.

Rory, October 24, 2002 - 1:35 am UTC

Hi Tom,

Backup and Recovery really is important. But how come you just listed RMAN once. Shouldn't it be side by side with backup and recovery. After all it's a whole new world with rman.



Tom Kyte
October 24, 2002 - 6:55 am UTC

understanding the mechanics -- how the files relate to eachother, what happens when "X" is lost (what choices do you have) that is what I consider most important.

RMAN is then a tool you can use based on that knowledge to automate a backup for you.

Robert, March 19, 2003 - 11:40 am UTC


Some hints aboot books

Bernd Boecker, March 20, 2003 - 4:00 am UTC

I agree:

Read original up-to-date information from new Oracle versions

additionally,
found helpfull with lots of case studies + expierence:

For Backup& Recovery 8i:

Oracle8i Backup & Recovery
by Rama Velpuri, Anand Adkoli, George Williams


</code> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072127171/qid=1048149979/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-3360042-3271302?v=glance&s=books

* RMAN (9i):

Oracle9i RMAN Backup & Recovery
by Robert G. Freeman, Matthew Hart 
 
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072226625/qid=1048150738/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3360042-3271302?v=glance&s=books <code>

and most important: and practice for yourself...




Excellent!!

A reader, August 20, 2003 - 1:54 pm UTC

Tom,

I am a DBA and now will be working on projects related to Oracle 11i Applications, can you or someone provide a similar list of documention for 11i Applications.

Thanks..



Tom Kyte
August 21, 2003 - 5:02 pm UTC

same list! (need that to manage a database)

and then the oracle apps docs, of which i know *less then nothing* about -- sorry on that one.

consistancy across versions

James Blanding, January 16, 2004 - 10:13 am UTC

I have also noticed you frequently refer to the Concepts Guide. I took a look at the PDF version for 8i the other day and was dismayed to find it weighing in at 900 pages (no sense in printing it out heh!). Anyway, I am going to start chipping away at it, but then it occurred to me...We're going to be looking at migrating to 9 soon (possibly even during summer break I suspect). If I were to read through the guide for 9i instead, would I frequently be finding things in our current system that did not fit? Would it be easier to read the one for 8i and then just skim over the one for 9i, looking for differences? I don't mind the reading, it's just that I want to save some time for other things, too, like your book...

Thanks!

Tom Kyte
January 16, 2004 - 11:28 am UTC

I'd go for the 9i guide from the get go. 90% applicable to 8i.

Excellent guide

mohammad illiyaz, April 30, 2004 - 2:01 am UTC

hey tom,the first thing i was asked to do was read Concepts guide by you in your book.i am a novice of oracle but beleive me it has increased my confidence to sky.its gonna help every one who wants to know the internels .
thanx a lot.

concepts guide query

A reader, August 05, 2005 - 6:46 am UTC

Hi Tom,

Started reading the 9i concepts guide - finally!

Already stumbled and have a query...

Regd. READ-ONLY databases, It states "...However, you cannot take permanent tablespaces offline while a database is open in read-only mode. Also, job queues are not available in read-only mode.
"
and then again later it states:

"Read-only mode does not restrict database recovery or operations that change the database's state without generating redo data. For example, in read-only mode:

Datafiles can be taken offline and online
" ...

hmmm, I do understand that taking a datafile offline is
not the same as taking the full tablespace offline. But if the datafile belongs to a permanent tablespace, can it still be taken offline (yes.. I'll try this as I speak!).

So, my query is - if a datafile of a permament TS can be taken offline why not the full TS (i.e in a READ-ONLY database)?

Thanks,
Sandy

Tom Kyte
August 05, 2005 - 11:16 am UTC

offline of a tablespace would update the physical data dictionary, offline of a datafile does not update the SYS tables, it modifies the control files and they may be written to even when the database is read only.

<<unrelated to thread>> - error while searching on asktom...

Sandy, August 09, 2005 - 5:05 am UTC

Hi Tom,

Was searching for the string "online partition" on the website and got this error..

"
Error ERR-1008 Error performing branch to page 1. >> p_request=, p_instance=1024609713156035411, p_flow_step_id=1
OK

ORA-00001: unique constraint (FLOWS_010403.WWV_FLOW_DATA_IDX1) violated
"

maybe a freak error.. hope this helps anyway.

Regards,
Sandeep



differences between 10.2 and 11.2 db concept gides

Janis, May 25, 2011 - 6:23 am UTC

Hi,

What about differences between database concept guides for 10.2 and 11.2? Whether 11.2 guide is fully applicable for 10.2 database?

Thank you!
Tom Kyte
May 25, 2011 - 11:32 am UTC

it is 99% applicable. There are things that exist in 11.2 that didn't exist in 10.2.

No, I don't have the complete list of what they are - but it is not large. The concepts haven't changed much, the features have, but not the concepts.

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